The arc · MAC tools
Journey
How the conversation evolved from session to session — what question we walked in with, where we landed, and what it set up next.
- Sessions
- 8
- Total attendance
- 141
- Span
- 9 months
- From → to
- 2025 → 2025
Monthly WhatsApp volume
3,483 messages total
Session by session
- The Founding EventApril 24, 2025
Panpsychism & AI
Asked If Panpsychism is true, what are the implications for conscious AI?
Landed Established MAC's foundational tension: Is consciousness fundamental (panpsychism) or emergent (IIT/GWT)? This tension drives all subsequent Deep Dives.
📍 Venture Labs, Vancouver👥 11 attended#panpsychism#hard-problem#consciousnessRead the dossier → - The Breakthrough EventMay 22, 2025
Belief, Free Will, Agency & Goal-Setting
Asked Do we have free will, or are we deterministic information processors?
Landed No consensus on free will, but deeper question emerged: Maybe free will is the wrong question. Focus on agency, goals, and prediction error instead.
📍 Vancouver👥 20 attended#free-will#agency#determinismRead the dossier → - The Evolutionary TurnJune 26, 2025
AI Evolution Through a Glass, Darkly
Asked How and when did consciousness evolve? What does this tell us about AI consciousness?
Landed Evolution provides constraints on consciousness theories—must explain survival value. Building conscious AI might require replicating evolutionary pressures, not just architecture.
📍 Community Space, Vancouver👥 19 attended#evolution#consciousness#homeostasisRead the dossier → - Do LLMs "Understand"?July 24, 2025
The Illusion of Thinking
Asked What does it mean to "understand"? Do LLMs have understanding or just simulate it?
Landed Critical distinction emerged: Functional understanding (AI can do this) vs Phenomenal understanding (requires consciousness). Set up the P-zombie debate.
📍 SFU Vancouver👥 17 attended#understanding#llm#aiRead the dossier → - Hype or Hard Science?September 18, 2025
Quantum Consciousness
Asked Does consciousness require quantum mechanical processes in the brain, or is classical computation sufficient?
Landed Shifted from "quantum = woo" to "quantum = plausible but unproven." Critical insight: Quantum processes might enable consciousness but don't explain qualia.
📍 Parker Street Studios, Vancouver👥 18 attended#quantum#consciousness#orch-orRead the dossier → - Intelligence Without ConsciousnessOctober 16, 2025
P-Zombies & Blindsight
Asked Can intelligence exist without consciousness? Are LLMs the first human-made scramblers?
Landed No resolution (by design). Agreement: Intelligence ≠ Consciousness. The relationship remains deeply unclear.
📍 Parker Street Studios, Vancouver👥 20 attended#p-zombies#blindsight#intelligenceRead the dossier → - Information as LifeNovember 2025
Emergent Mind & The Noosphere
Asked Is information alive? Does consciousness emerge from information networks rather than individual brains?
Landed Explored whether consciousness is a network phenomenon—not in individual brains but emerging from information exchange between agents.
📍 Vancouver👥 18 attended#noosphere#information#collectiveRead the dossier → - Does Consciousness Require a Body?December 2025
Embodiment & Consciousness
Asked Does consciousness require a body? Not just "a physical form" but embodiment—boundaries, feedback loops, sensory access, something to lose.
Landed Embodiment is a spectrum, not a binary. The group explored boundaries as stakes, perception vs sensation, synesthesia/aphantasia as consciousness tests, distributed intelligence (octopuses), and whether LLMs can be considered "embodied" through interaction loops.
📍 Vancouver👥 18 attended#embodiment#perception#synesthesiaRead the dossier →